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# 41 Old 11-24-2008

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I’ve read that long jack and up-regulate these enzymes too. This is something Id like to checkout in more detail in the near future… to optimize gains from a product that requires these enzyme reactions.

-Eric
Sounds good. There is a doc i work with that's pretty big into bodybuilding. He has access to the hospital research database. I'll see if he can look into this and pull anything up. I'll hit you up if my query returns anything of promise.
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# 42 Old 11-25-2008

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Very cool, E. I'll keep on keeping on then. I noticed that Toco-8 dropped the hair loss way down relative to using nothing at all, but with the topical 5a-reductase inhibitors, I haven't lost a single hair in the shower since I've been using them. Not one. It's kind of scary how powerful Toco-8 and a good topical can be. Of course, I'll get into all of this with the pics in the coming months.
What topical have you been using?

Any updates?
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# 43 Old 03-30-2009

I was wondering if there is a time frame from applying the topical 1-T to the best window of time to begin training? In such so, that your sweat will not rinse away the product, and for best training hormone levels. Also the container states to keep out of sunlight. Should I stay out of the light and if so, for how long after application, and why is the product 1-T not in an opaque container? What products are ok to stack, and which ones should not be taken together. I have been using 1-T and Taco-8 for almost a week now. I am a newbee to hormone supplements.
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# 44 Old 04-01-2009

Wow that's alot of questions. Avoid prolonged sun exposure for ~6 hours.

It used to be in an opaque container, they switched with Version 6 to the nicer container , it's easier to travel with. Store it out of light.

The 1-T should be applied in the morning because it may cause insomnia if taken too late. The metabolites are released fairly constantly into the bloodstream over the next 12-24 hours, but I suppose the first hour or two after application you might see slightly higher levels.

As for stacking, the 1-T stacks well as the Hardcore Muscle Stack or the 1-T Muscle Stack . Also I would suggest picking up CLA for the fat-loss and health benefits as a long-term staple supplement.
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# 45 Old 07-05-2009

hey
i want to run a tren/anavar stack but have some questions..
is the tren compound in your topical closer to acetate(finaplix) or enanthate?
if acetate how many pumps would equal 100mg? sorry if im not in the right place im new to this.
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# 46 Old 07-08-2009

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hey
i want to run a tren/anavar stack but have some questions..
is the tren compound in your topical closer to acetate(finaplix) or enanthate?
if acetate how many pumps would equal 100mg? sorry if im not in the right place im new to this.
Its closer to acetate... and even faster acting than acetate.

Its also a slightly different compound that TREN, and its stacked with a couple other hormones... but if you wanted to compare directly I would say results should be comparable to about 200mg/week trenbolone acetate.

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# 47 Old 07-09-2009

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Its closer to acetate... and even faster acting than acetate.

Its also a slightly different compound that TREN, and its stacked with a couple other hormones... but if you wanted to compare directly I would say results should be comparable to about 200mg/week trenbolone acetate.

-Eric
so is running anavar along side with 1-tren make sense or is it a waste of money? i have a major competition coming and want a good cutting stack.
thank you for your advice
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# 48 Old 07-15-2009

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so is running anavar along side with 1-tren make sense or is it a waste of money? i have a major competition coming and want a good cutting stack.
thank you for your advice
I think it would be a great cutting stack... probably my first choice if I had to choose an oral to stack with 1-T TREN.

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# 49 Old 07-18-2009

Hi Eric,

you mentioned shoulders, upper back, neck, and even scrotal sac for possible application areas. What about the top of the feet since the skin is pretty thin.

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# 50 Old 07-20-2009

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Hi Eric,

you mentioned shoulders, upper back, neck, and even scrotal sac for possible application areas. What about the top of the feet since the skin is pretty thin.

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That's ok too.
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# 51 Old 07-24-2009

I was curious if anyone has ever made Halotestin into a transdermal? I've never heard of anyone making 17aa steroids into transdermals and probably for good reason I imagine. I know people can do Tren Ace, due to the acetate ester being very short acting. You can to Boldenone without the Undecylenate ester and to 1-T without the methyl, but what about the good ol' Fluoxymesterone?
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# 52 Old 07-26-2009

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I was curious if anyone has ever made Halotestin into a transdermal? I've never heard of anyone making 17aa steroids into transdermals and probably for good reason I imagine. I know people can do Tren Ace, due to the acetate ester being very short acting. You can to Boldenone without the Undecylenate ester and to 1-T without the methyl, but what about the good ol' Fluoxymesterone?
Its a little bigger than the average steroid molecule because of the floro group, but it probably would work. However, I dont really see it offering any advantage over oral.

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# 53 Old 07-31-2009

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Dermsacrine interests me a good deal,specifically your inclusion of preg and the rationale you give for its inclusion.

The text below is a copy from your Dermacrine writeup and the refernced study is also below.I'd really appreciate it if you would be so kind as to help me out with a link to the full text.

The second hormone in Dermacrine is pregnenolone. This hormone was added in a precise ratio with the DHEA to balance and control conversion to DHT (dihydrotestosterone), which may cause hair loss in men prone to androgenic alopecia. (24) Those sensitive to DHT who are concerned with hair-loss need not worry; Dermacrine won't cost you the hair-line!


Steroid 5alpha-reductase inhibitors.
E Flores, et al.
Mini Rev Med Chem, May 1, 2003; 3(3): 225-37
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# 54 Old 08-01-2009

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Eric-

Dermsacrine interests me a good deal,specifically your inclusion of preg and the rationale you give for its inclusion.

The text below is a copy from your Dermacrine writeup and the refernced study is also below.I'd really appreciate it if you would be so kind as to help me out with a link to the full text.

The second hormone in Dermacrine is pregnenolone. This hormone was added in a precise ratio with the DHEA to balance and control conversion to DHT (dihydrotestosterone), which may cause hair loss in men prone to androgenic alopecia. (24) Those sensitive to DHT who are concerned with hair-loss need not worry; Dermacrine won't cost you the hair-line!


Steroid 5alpha-reductase inhibitors.
E Flores, et al.
Mini Rev Med Chem, May 1, 2003; 3(3): 225-37
It really does make the formula more versatile in many ways to our users; especially those that may be prone to MPB.
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# 55 Old 08-05-2009

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It really does make the formula more versatile in many ways to our users; especially those that may be prone to MPB.
Eh,can you please throw me teh scienze (full text study) on this so I can substantiate this claim?

It just seems a bit far fetched i.e. too good to be true.

If not,even the abstract would be helpful.Google and Pubmed searches produced nothing.
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# 56 Old 08-06-2009

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Eh,can you please throw me teh scienze (full text study) on this so I can substantiate this claim?

It just seems a bit far fetched i.e. too good to be true.

If not,even the abstract would be helpful.Google and Pubmed searches produced nothing.
Are you referring to Progesterone and 5-alpha reductase inhibition? There is quite a bit of info about it around the web in that regard. Progesterone will compete for 5-a reductase (forming it's own metabolites) there-by decreasing the incidence of DHT conversion. That will vary though greatly among people (for a variety of reasons); especially in those with pre-existing issues or genetic predispostion.

I have some stuff on my comp, but i'll have to take a good look to find it. I know that Eric has the full text study of what you're requesting here. We're in the process of a move as of current, so when things get settled in, i'll see if he can post that up for you.
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