Alright boys (and girls?), time to start post cycle. I am coming off of a 12 week testosterone cypionate cycle. I used a few different orals throughout as well (3 week superdrol pulse kickstart, 5 week dbol, and 4 week havoc tailend). I'm shutdown pretty bad right now (physically speaking), and have been since the first few weeks of the cycle. My post cycle will be Toremifene, Sustain Alpha, AN's Drive, and IGF-1 if I can get ahold of some acetic acid for reconstitution. I will also be using a few other things but they are included in my everyday stack so I'll leave those out for now. Stay tuned for more details...

Hey noobface. PCT sux...have fun. :-)

alright day 5 of pct. so far so good. theres really been nothing to take note of so far. i guess that means my post cycle is doing a good job. my strength and weight have remained up so i'm happy so far. one thing, which isn't a bad thing, and i believe i've read it before, but damn does sustain smell like salad dressing!!! no joke! it smells like straight up salad dressing!! haha i apply it about an hour before bed and it makes me hungry which isn't a good thing at that hour of the night! as of right now, i'm taking 6 drive ed, 120mg toremifene, and 5 pumps of sustain.

hmmm i am not losing weight, nor am i gaining at the moment, buuuuuut, i am feeling strong as hell right now! i thought my strength would go down a tad bit but in all honesty, it hasn't budged. if anything, i'd say it might be going up ever so slightly. my endurance is great too! no post cycle blues for me (knock on wood)!

Remember lots of porn! Lol, I think this is like the 8th message board I've told you this on now.

A note on the Sustain smell - We have adjusted this since the first batch as per the customer feedback so any Sustain ordered in the last few days should have a much more pleasant smell.



-Eric

I was the one who said it smelled like caesar dressing. And truth be told, the first batch was better than this second batch. Too much patchouli in the seconmd batch.



Plus I have these little red itchy bumps on my skin wherever I put the Sustain on.

Help Eric?

You grew to like that garlic smell eh?

They are still working different ratios of the essential oils, so I will take note of your experience. The red itchiness should be soothed by the most recent addition of the witch hazel. We are slowly moving our topicals to an all natural sort of cream…

-Eric

sorry fellas i've been rather busy as of late. i'm in week four of pct and everything has been ohhh soooooooo smooth. i haven't once felt like i've been "off" so to speak. it's probably helped a lot that i blocked out that whole mindset of me coming off of an aas cycle from my daily thinking too. i have done 3 previous cycles before this last one (all 3-4 week oral only cycles) and have not experienced such a smooth post cycle as this one. and all i have been using is sustain alpha, toremifene, and drive. i am physically, fully back to normal in certain places my strength and weight have stayed right where they were while on cycle too, maybe a slight increase in fat but that always seems to be the case. i don't have the same endurance that i had while on but that's obviously expected too. i am pretty confident that sustain and a strong test booster would probably be sufficient for these shorter cycles. i'd still have a serm on hand for gyno precautions but i think this is a superb product and it definitely will be included in my pcts in the future without a doubt! thank you for giving me the chance to try this product and log it here!!

How do you feel now that you have been off of sustain for a while?



you hobo

i feel like i need to get back on it actually. workouts less intense, i feel crappy and lethargic. i need mo! if i had the funds right now my bathroom cabinet would look like your refrigerator, except instead of hobo 40oz's lining the shelves from top to bottom, it would be sustain alpha bottles

You mentioned about increasing the thickness of the topicals into more of a cream base?

I think that would be a great idea - It would make application much easier. One of my only complaints has always been the watery mix kind of makes application a pain.

I just tried this for the first time today, so I won't comment on performance/results at this point. When I opened the bottle I smelled ethanol, and a very nice citrus odor (bergamot like to me though label says lime), then followed a strange strong chemical odor that I believe tames down once decomplexed from the polymer to the garlic odor that others have noted. Caesar salad, funny, I was thinking chinese food. Anyway it applied okay, a bit of gumming up, the associations could make it good for a practical joke, but the gumming up is not all that extreme. I did feel nice and relaxed after application, perhaps coincidental, perhaps not.

Thanks for the feedback dal.

Is this the new 4000 lot?

-Eric

I don't know. It says 4.0 sample bottle.

My 2nd time applying it went better, perhaps the texture issue was old skin sloughing off.

Oh wow... you got that one fast. ;-)

-Eric

Dose sustain Alpha has to be on 24 hurs like the1-t ?
If i pot it on after morning shower can i shower after evenig workout?

up to 24 hours is best. however, it would be fine to shower after your evening workout.