Did you read about 1-T LV on this site before you started taking it?

I think that the only real major "side effect" will be the stress and damage that this compound does to your liver.

He could have been talking about pulsing the SD.

And if the "OP" asks what pulsing is, well, I can't control the flames that might result...

Lou is right; get edumucated a bit better before you flunk superdrol. Unlike college courses, repeatedly flunking superdrol can have very severe effects on your physical health.

good thing your liver regenerates. I mean you can literally cut out a chunk it will be regrow

1-T isnt supposed to be really liver toxic since it isnt methylated but it might cause u to feel like u have been hit by a truck.

Still shouldnt go out of ur way to spit dirt in ur liver's eye.

Hey thanks stickman. yeah i got supercissus rx and glucos/chondroitin and am taking them both. I'll start megadosing the cissus though, thats a good idea. I don't have time to preload it as I'm already on day 9 of my cycle. I'm running superdrone at 20-25 mg and tren LV at 3 ml 3 times a day (210 mg). But what's weird is the other day while i was doing straight bar curls, into my third set, my left tendon/ligament (whatever is on the outside of my forearm) started flaring up a bit. I was really annoyed, and it still is emitting a low, barely perceptible throb. This is a problem area for my i suspect, as when I ran 11-oxo the same spot seemed to dry up and get sore. I asked over at AM and a couple guys claimed that tren dried them out....I am inclined to agree...I think it's the tren

Hopefully the cissus megadosed and the glucos/chondroitin will help out, it sucks that that shit takes a while to work

The only "quick fix" for joint discomfort in my experience is a short course of naproxen or similar (3-10 days, RX dosing but using Aleve for instance, etc). However, I would not recommend that for someone on such a heavy cycle (due to the NSAID's temporary impact on kidney function primarily). The time it could be appropriate is on lighter cycles than you are currently running and if you're to the point that you are out of the gym from the discomfort for a few days anyway (in which case it could make sense in getting joint inflammation under control more quickly). Aside from the additive health impacts, some ppl will argue that taking an NSAID inhibits new muscle growth based on a certain study, but if you can't workout due to the joint issues, why does it matter for a few days? The riskier approach is used by bodybuilders who have ruined their joints and take NSAIDs before every workout. Those joint supps previously mentioned are less effective at treating active joint inflammation, but there is some evidence that they are beneficial to your joints over time and can help strengthen and regerenate tissues like cartilige, etc. Cissus is probably your best, non-NSAID approach to controlling joint discomfort, but YMMV of course (and bearing in mind that some joint problems are more serious than can be handled by a pill or powder and need medical follow up and treatment). These are just my opinions of course.

Not everybody has such a smooth regenerative experience though. I can provide you the link to someone's GI bloodwork and doctor letters from PHF if you like (it's late; me tired), but in a nutshell, someone who ran just a few oral cycles (M1T twice, something else once) and appeared to have an underlying liver "sensitivity" developed a somewhat persistent case of mild cholestasis (lasting several months with alkaline phosphatase staying about 3 times the ULN and his other LFTs staying moderately elevated too). If reversible cholestatis is perpetuated long enough, there is a risk of developing primary billary disease and even cirrhosis. They aren't quite so reversible.

Like tomahawk said, there is no reason to take the liver's regenerative capabilities for granted (I think he said that; something about spit).

And just don't do like this knucklehead below:

Bodybuilder drugs his liver to oblivion – twice

Okay so here is my cycle including supplements:

Superdrone: weeks 2-6 (1ml twice daily)
Liver juice: weeks 1-8 (5ml twice daily)
sustain alpha liqua-vade: weeks 7-10 (5ml twice daily, 5 days on, 2 days off)
Toco8: weeks 3-10 (1 scoop every day)
EndoAmp: weeks 7-10 (1 scoop every day)

Supplements: weeks 1-10 'routine A' which will be stated below.
Supplements: weeks 2-6 (while on SD) Hawthorne berry x 3 and Glucosamine Chlondroitin x 3

Routine A:


Digestive enzyme with every meal Pure whey before bed
Cod liver oil in the morning ZMA before bed
Multi-vitamin in the morning GH release before bed
Echinacea in the morning
Hawthorne Berry in the morning x 1
Glucosamine Chondroitin in the morning x 1
Protein Brek in the morning
Green Tea before gym
Creatine with shake before gym
Maximum Absorption Protein before gym
Mass attack protein shake after gym containing 500 calories!
The edge before, during and after gym

What it does:

Digestive enzyme helps breakdown protein Echinacea helps immune system to prevent colds
Cod liver oil helps joints and general health care Hawthorne Berry is used as a heart tonic
Green Tea is rich in anti oxidants Creatine improves strength
ZMA helps recovery
Glucosamine Chondroitin helps maintain healthy joints and connective tissue
GH release increase strength, muscularity, building of bones and teeth, strengthening tendons
Multi-vitamin helps immune system and protects against radicals generated during exercise
The edge contains glucose polymers, pure crystalline fructose, whey protein, anti-oxidants and probiotics to help fight lethargy

I believe this to be a good plan. your thoughts? thanks

AHoping somebody can help me out, I'm on my second week of my superdrone cycle and boom my appetiate is gone. I dont feel like eating, taking my protein, nothing. Any ideas to get me to eat enough? I was doing great with my gain, I was bridging Propadrol/Hemadrol to superdrol and now I just done wasn to eat, or do shit. I was up 16 pound to 243 now I'm down to 238. I'm a Paranedic with a shitty schedule so maybe its not helping much either.........

Read the article aint that something, article states that Deca and Andro were claimed to be used, but those two compunds arent really liver toxic, they suspect he was useing something else that was causeing him the liver damage. Perhaps SD, really wish the guy had been honest about his useage (at least they say there is a good chance he wasnt completly honest).

This is scary stuff, useing this strong liver damageing compunds like the example you put about the guy running M1t, do you know how often he ran it or at what dosage?

That ergo-log website that the article is on is full of great reads in my opinion.

Here is the link to the person's posts, bloodwork, doctor letters, etc. He only ran 2x2 week cycles of M1T and 1x2 week cycle of "Tren Bomb" (WTF that is I don't know) over the course of 6 months, and used nolva as PCT. It is worth noting that nolva in some cases has been associated with liver dysfunction including primary billary disease. One more reason to avoid nolva, though it is not clear what caused this person's malady. Given the light cycles he used, his liver seems to have been unusually sensitive to these agents. I used M1T much more haphazardly than him in college and suffered no persistent liver effects, but that doesn't make me a role model:

M1T/Tren Bomb Blood Test Results

Universal Uni-Liver tabs worked well for me. They are cheap as hell. 500 of them for like $15 at BB.com. They are dessicated argintinian bovine liver tabs. I take 2 with each meal (about 10 a day), and my appetite definitely goes up.

Another option is to take a digestive enzyme supplement (like Now Foods digestive enzymes) with each meal so that your stomach will process the food a bit faster. It won't make you hungrier, but maybe along with the liver tabs, you will be a bit hungrier and won't get bloated from force-feeding yourself so easily.

I think there is a thread on here (somewhere) that is specifically about appetite stimulants.

I would add "Pre-load Weeks 1-104: Read, research, learn some more".

You gotta be kidding me, that plan took weeks of research and preperation. It's got everything to combat the sides of superdrone. Anyone got some real feedback, anything I should add or remove? Thanks

If it took weeks, then I guess you've got it covered...

I didn't see anything for managing gyno symptoms should they emerge. My recommendation here is the same as always: read, research, and learn some more.

sustain alpha blocks estrogen and boosts testosterone

Dude seriously, you need to sit back and listen to all the advice that these members are telling you. For one your planing on running SD for 5 weeks at 2ml a day. I honestly feel you shouldn't be running SD at all at your age and on top of that for your first cycle. Then just to make it worse you bypass all the advice that says dont exceed 4 weeks and SD at 3 weeks is the safest! Why are you in such a big hurry? If you think you know everything by a couple of weeks of reading and ignoring advice, you got another thing coming to you buddy. I dont know much compared to alot of the members on here but I do know if i was in your shoes SD would be the last cycle I would even be considering. From what ive seen so far Stickman has always told it as it is and provided great information and advice to every member new and old. But you come on here with your ignorance and throw member's advice back in their face then say you will post your results of SD! So not only do you want to mess with your body but you want to encourage other too-young adults to follow your steps.

Sorry for telling you so bluntly (hope that i didnt offend other members) but ive read multiple post from you and your just not understanding the risks brother.

Hey, sorry that threw me off a little, I am actually doing sd for four weeks, weeks 2-5 it was a typo. Do apologise, I was considering doing two dosage of 0.5ml for week one so 1ml instead of 2ml.

Good god that stuff is like rat poison, but sells by the bucket-load over here mate.

That bloodwork is enough to put me off it for life!