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# 21 Old 11-03-2008

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Yes, this would be one of the most effective overall stacks on the legal market right now. Please let us know how it goes.

I would keep the monsterdrol dose moderate too.. you don’t want to go too heavy with it and kill your appetite.

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Ah, didn't realize the Monsterdrol (or maybe the combo) would affect my appetite. I would wait until doing a BB split, but I can't wait! I'll see what I can do on this 5x5 and run with that for now, and hey, run it again 2 months later!
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do you think clomid and nolva would be ok for pct with this when comming off i have some extra and wanted to save my money for the 1-t.
10mg/day nolva or 25mg/day clomid for 30 days would be sufficient for PCT. However, I personally would advise a Sustain Alpha/Toco-8 or Testosterone Recovery Stack PCT, as I dont like the side effects from the SERMs.

FYI, keep an eye out for a discount on the Testosterone Recovery Stack with your order of 1-T. [pre-orders only]

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# 23 Old 11-03-2008

So, just to be clear Eric, the Test Recovery Stack would be sufficient PCT for a 4 week run of 1-T? Any need to run some HCG during the 4 weeks of 1-T or a low dose SERM along with the TRS? I just hate the freakin' libido crash I've dealt with during other PH runs.
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Any specific diet to elicit the greatest gains while cycling 1-T?

The current diet I am on is the Anabolic Solution, and was just curious if it is advantageous to use a High Fat/Low carb moderate protein approach?

TIA
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So, just to be clear Eric, the Test Recovery Stack would be sufficient PCT for a 4 week run of 1-T? Any need to run some HCG during the 4 weeks of 1-T or a low dose SERM along with the TRS? I just hate the freakin' libido crash I've dealt with during other PH runs.

You wouldn’t need the hCG for any cycle 6 weeks or less. Although you could still use it if you want to hasten the recovery a bit once you get off. It always helps.

With or without the hCG, the Testosterone Recovery Stack will have you totally covered for PCT.

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# 26 Old 11-03-2008

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Any specific diet to elicit the greatest gains while cycling 1-T?

The current diet I am on is the Anabolic Solution, and was just curious if it is advantageous to use a High Fat/Low carb moderate protein approach?

TIA
If anything a high carb, high protein, moderate fat diet is best while on cycle. Then a high fat, low carb, high protein diet while off cycle to help support natural T production again, increase insulin sensitivity, and keep body fat down.

This topic really deserves a article I think...

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You wouldn’t need the hCG for any cycle 6 weeks or less. Although you could still use it if you want to hasten the recovery a bit once you get off. It always helps.

With or without the hCG, the Testosterone Recovery Stack will have you totally covered for PCT.

-Eric
What about 6 weeks 1-T, 4 weeks Monsterdrol. Testosterone Recovery Stack still good enough?

And what to run during that cycle? I was told when I originally asked about the Monsterdrol to take a liver pill and something like Cycle Support during. Idea's? (I realize you know more about what to take for 1-T cycle, and not a stack cycle like this, just asking).
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# 28 Old 11-04-2008

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If anything a high carb, high protein, moderate fat diet is best while on cycle. Then a high fat, low carb, high protein diet while off cycle to help support natural T production again, increase insulin sensitivity, and keep body fat down.

This topic really deserves a article I think...

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Thanks for that info, and an article would be nice
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Thanks for that info, and an article would be nice
Bump to the article
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# 30 Old 11-04-2008

I've decided that as soon as i get my 1-t I will run it for 6 weeks. I will be using sustain alpha at 10 pumps for 2 days every 2 weeks to get my LH going again. I'm definitely interested to see how this protocol works at helping me not be so suppressed. I will also be running Provirion at 50mg ed to keep the libido up. Once i come off i have some PCT tabs by IDS that I will be using. I always use a serm and i have clomid on hand if needed but i will give the PCT tabs a shot as I've heard great things about them. I will also be using DTHC as a test booster to help speed up the recovery process.

Not sure which diet i'm going to use yet. Between all the eggs, fishoil, and cla i take my fay content may be difficult to do a 40/40/20 diet so i may do a 40/30/30 diet instead.
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# 31 Old 11-04-2008

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You wouldn’t need the hCG for any cycle 6 weeks or less. Although you could still use it if you want to hasten the recovery a bit once you get off. It always helps.

With or without the hCG, the Testosterone Recovery Stack will have you totally covered for PCT.

-Eric
Eric, thanks so much for the info. I'm so excited about 1-T. Dermacrine and Sustain have done wonders for me the past several months. I just have a few more questions before I plan my cycle.

1. At approximately 115 pumps/bottle, 1 bottle could last 4 weeks at 4 pumps/day. Is that sufficient? At least for a first cycle?

2. I realize HCG is not necessary, but IF one were to run it during 4 weeks of 1-T, what would you recommend? I read your HCG article, but I'm not sure how to apply it to a 4 week run of 1-T with the goal of easing post-cycle libido issues.

. . . or is there something else I could run concurrently to keep the boys up?

3. How would you recommend cycling? I was thinking of 4 weeks 1-T, followed by 4 weeks of Test Recovery Stack, then 4 weeks off (or maybe Phytotest??). . . . then repeat. . . . what do you think?

Thanks. I greatly appreciate your advice
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The 1-T is balanced as is, so no need to stack Dermacrine with 1-T… it would just be too much DHEA.

If you really want to go hardcore, maybe go up to 6 pumps ED of the 1-T.

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so now i-t is out,.why would ther be any need to buy derrma??
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so now i-t is out,.why would ther be any need to buy derrma??
for people who don't want to run a prohormone. Also some older men with low dhea levels get a nice libido boost from dermacrine. For us younger guys it would most likely do the opposite after time.
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# 34 Old 11-04-2008

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10mg/day nolva or 25mg/day clomid for 30 days would be sufficient for PCT. However, I personally would advise a Sustain Alpha/Toco-8 or Testosterone Recovery Stack PCT, as I dont like the side effects from the SERMs.

FYI, keep an eye out for a discount on the Testosterone Recovery Stack with your order of 1-T. [pre-orders only]

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What side effects can you experience from the SERMs?
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what kind of effect would taking 1-t have on a drug test? would/could you possibly test possitve?
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# 36 Old 11-05-2008

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What about 6 weeks 1-T, 4 weeks Monsterdrol. Testosterone Recovery Stack still good enough?

And what to run during that cycle? I was told when I originally asked about the Monsterdrol to take a liver pill and something like Cycle Support during. Idea's? (I realize you know more about what to take for 1-T cycle, and not a stack cycle like this, just asking).
Im not sure that liver support during will really do much. I would use something for PCT though.

And yes, the Recovery Stack would be perfect for PCT.

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# 37 Old 11-05-2008

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Eric, thanks so much for the info. I'm so excited about 1-T. Dermacrine and Sustain have done wonders for me the past several months. I just have a few more questions before I plan my cycle.

1. At approximately 115 pumps/bottle, 1 bottle could last 4 weeks at 4 pumps/day. Is that sufficient? At least for a first cycle?

2. I realize HCG is not necessary, but IF one were to run it during 4 weeks of 1-T, what would you recommend? I read your HCG article, but I'm not sure how to apply it to a 4 week run of 1-T with the goal of easing post-cycle libido issues.

. . . or is there something else I could run concurrently to keep the boys up?

3. How would you recommend cycling? I was thinking of 4 weeks 1-T, followed by 4 weeks of Test Recovery Stack, then 4 weeks off (or maybe Phytotest??). . . . then repeat. . . . what do you think?

Thanks. I greatly appreciate your advice
A 4 week cycle of 1-T should produce some solid gains, especially if you are sensitive to the effects of anabolics.

The hCG does not really apply to a 4 week cycle. It could help during a 6 week cycle, but isn’t really nessacary their either. If you wanted to do it, Id do 250iu 2x per week starting on week 2, ending on week 4.

You could also experiment with concurrent Sustain Alpha applications to help libido.

And yes, 4 weeks of 1-T followed by PCT, followed by Phyto-Test, followed by a highly potent soon to be released ecdysterone product.

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# 38 Old 11-05-2008

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so now i-t is out,.why would ther be any need to buy derrma??
Dermacrine will still be a good gentle option.

1-T will be slightly higher risk for the hair-line, more suppressive, lethergy, and more likely to cause acne. So there will still be guys that just prefer Dermacrine for these reasons.

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What side effects can you experience from the SERMs?


Clomid & Nolvadex's Toxic Side Effects Exposed - Liver damage, Impotence, Cancer, Loss Of Vision

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what kind of effect would taking 1-t have on a drug test? would/could you possibly test possitve?
Its not going to effect a generic job screening pee test.

However, if you are getting tested by the NCAA or for steroidal compounds, you would have to be careful with 1-T – its ingredients are on the ban list.

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