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# 41 Old 11-05-2008

thanks eric.

also whats the max number of weeks recommended for a 1-t cycle?
would 8 or 12 be to much?
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The same sort of gains you would expect from say… 30mg/day anavar with 400mg/wk testosterone….

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thanks for the info I have never tried either product
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# 43 Old 11-05-2008

Thoughts regarding Bill Roberts opinion from T-Nation?

T-Nation.com | Topical 1-Androsterone
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And yes, 4 weeks of 1-T followed by PCT, followed by Phyto-Test, followed by a highly potent soon to be released ecdysterone product.

-Eric
Thanks for the answer Eric. Above you indicate a 3 month period following 1 month of 1-T. . . . . would I need to wait that long to do another 4 weeker of 1-T?

Oh, and "a highly potent soon to be released ecdysterone product"??. . . . you guys are on a roll

Also, no offense to this Bill Roberts fellow, but he must not have ever used Dermacrine or he would be very aware that topical DHEA works. And works well.
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after running a cycle of 1-T, is Sustain Alpha sufficient for PCT or does Toco-8 need to be taken with it as well? Thanks, I'm still trying to learn about this stuff.
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after running a cycle of 1-T, is Sustain Alpha sufficient for PCT or does Toco-8 need to be taken with it as well? Thanks, I'm still trying to learn about this stuff.
toco-8 would be a great addition to the sustin alpha in your PCT
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# 47 Old 11-06-2008

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Eric and the PP staff what would you think of a 1-4ad @ 800mg-1000mg ed along side of 1T for 6weeks
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Its not going to effect a generic job screening pee test.

However, if you are getting tested by the NCAA or for steroidal compounds, you would have to be careful with 1-T – its ingredients are on the ban list.

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lets say "someone" did have to take a test for college sports. how long after taking 1-t until its out your system?
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if people are down to make trades for other prohormones im down i got some pretty good old original favorites that i would be willing to trade for the two bottle special of 1-t post if interested
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thanks eric.

also whats the max number of weeks recommended for a 1-t cycle?
would 8 or 12 be to much?
8-12 weeks would require concurrent use with hCG and this is out of reach for most men. 6 weeks is really the max length you should go without using hCG.

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Thoughts regarding Bill Roberts opinion from T-Nation?

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Bill knows very well the topical 1-androsterone will be effective.

It’s funny he denies anabolic activity from the 1-Adiol or 1-Adione. They used to rave about the anabolic activity of 4-Adiol in their topical Androsol product.

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Thanks for the answer Eric. Above you indicate a 3 month period following 1 month of 1-T. . . . . would I need to wait that long to do another 4 weeker of 1-T?

Oh, and "a highly potent soon to be released ecdysterone product"??. . . . you guys are on a roll

Also, no offense to this Bill Roberts fellow, but he must not have ever used Dermacrine or he would be very aware that topical DHEA works. And works well.
You could run the 1-T right after the ecdysterone… so that would be Phyto-Test/Sustain for 4 weeks, then some non-hormonal anabolic then the 1-T again.

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after running a cycle of 1-T, is Sustain Alpha sufficient for PCT or does Toco-8 need to be taken with it as well? Thanks, I'm still trying to learn about this stuff.
If you’re doing the full 6 week cycle of 1-T then we do suggest Sustain stacked with Toco-8.

If your only doing a 3-4 week cycle then Sustain alone would be fine.

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Eric and the PP staff what would you think of a 1-4ad @ 800mg-1000mg ed along side of 1T for 6weeks
Are you talking about the 1,4 boldenon metabolite? The diene something or other…?

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lets say "someone" did have to take a test for college sports. how long after taking 1-t until its out your system?
Should be out within 3-4 weeks.

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If you’re doing the full 6 week cycle of 1-T then we do suggest Sustain stacked with Toco-8.

If your only doing a 3-4 week cycle then Sustain alone would be fine.

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Most PH's I've taken gains pretty much stop after week 4. Should I expect to continue to see gains from 1-T in weeks 5 & 6?
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Most PH's I've taken gains pretty much stop after week 4. Should I expect to continue to see gains from 1-T in weeks 5 & 6?
Yes, in fact the gains seem to be most prominent during this time.

Are you ramping up overall intensity during the cycle? [eg, negatives]

Any idea on the protein intake?

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Yes, in fact the gains seem to be most prominent during this time.

Are you ramping up overall intensity during the cycle? [eg, negatives]

Any idea on the protein intake?

-Eric
Everything is in check and they work great, especially Havoc, but from what I've seen nad read after 4 weeks gains diminish quite a bit. I know some non-methyls such as Bold need to be ran for a longer duration, but the Superdrol's and Epi/Havoc's are typically ran 3-4 weeks. I'll just have to wait and see some logs on it.
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Are you talking about the 1,4 boldenon metabolite? The diene something or other…?

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1,4-Androstadiene-3,17-dione
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# 60 Old 11-07-2008

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1,4-Androstadiene-3,17-dione
Yeah.. I don’t know the typical dose for this stuff but 1000mg/day sounds a bit high. It sould be about 8% oral bioavailability.

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