Yes your link is good, and that is exactly what you want regarding a SERM. Run your H-drol for 5 weeks, bridged with Havoc or Epi(same thing)...you will see strength and recomp both, and sides will be minimal. Prob wouldnt even need a SERM, but low dose combined with the AI PCT(possibly something like Activate Extreme thrown in as well), would speed up recovery and getting your "boys" back to full strength. Consider a cortisol control supp for around the second week of PCT, maybe endoamp. I like the H-drol/Epi stack for a handful of reasons, low sides and pleasant results.

Awesome to hear guys. So I will cycle Havoc.
Can anyone explain the lingo for "Bridge" does it imply an overlapping in dosages or just finish a bottle one day and start the other one the next.

5 weeks H-drol does sound nice but after buying a SERM and then a bottle of Havoc, paying for more H-drol just for 2 more weeks of what I expect to be less that fantastic results is not tempting in the least. You can convince me otherwise but sinking even more money into just one cycle is getting a little over board in my opinion.

My second option: I could run H-drol at 2 caps the whole way through for 4 weeks +2 days then switch to Havoc. I originally figured that it'd be a waste of time at 2 caps the whole way through but on second thought this is my first PH and I do only weigh 170 so it's effectiveness may be just fine. I got some virgin receptors to wreak the benefit of and I've heard plenty of 250 lb gorillas on forums yammering on about how 3 caps of H-drol was hard on them.

So 4 weeks 'n change for H-drol then onto Havoc? or 3 weeks H-drol at 3 caps then to Havoc? I'll do my original dosages for PCT and have the SERM on hand just in case.

This thread is going to be insanely informative after this gets all worked out. I appreciate it guys.

It should actually make PCT go a bit smoother since the Sustain can help keep the testes active during the cycle… and primed for PCT.

-Eric

Why switch halfway through? Why not just run Epistane and Hdrol together the whole time? Or kick it up a notch and go for epistane and 1-T?

I hadn’t realized this until I looked, but resvisterol is a steroidial AI product. It combining 6-bromo and ATD which is going to smash estrogen into the ground and directly inhibit recovery by acting directly on androgen receptors. These are steroid hormones folks… you shouldn’t be using these for PCT… especially when your estrogen isn’t going to be elevated to begin with.

-Eric

so 1 bottle of sustin will be enough ?

One for the cycle… and then another for PCT.

-Eric

Thanks for your informative response. So you're saying get the liquiNolva SERM from AG guys and to go with Epistane for the addition to my cycle.

Questions for you all:

Could I use my iForce Reversitol for a little boost in the gym a few months down the line from now? I assume it'd like taking Animal Test again. Its hard to accept a total waste-o-money.

How should I use my LiquiNolva for PCT? emergency need based or just dose it with a plan? Thanks in advance.

dam I better get another 1

thanks

Since you already havei it, I would just throw the reversitol in with the cycle.

I don’t think you need the Nolva, and I’ve heard complaints about the AG operation the past couple months. If your just doing a 4 week cycle then the Sustain Alpha would have you covered for PCT.

-Eric

Forgive me if this has already been asked, since I do not have the time to cover the whole thread but...

After taking two bottles of T1 and using your for sale PCT, when should one begin using the PCT? Once you are completely out of the T1, or should you start the PCT when you are 5 days out from being empty of the T1, 4 days, 3 days?

In a nutshell, When is the best time to start with the PCT?

You'll want to start using the PCT once you are out if 1-T. However, some of the guys are going to use Sustain in the evenings while running 1-T to keep libido up and aid recovery. Of course still running the TRS once done with 1-T.

dose the toco 8 in the harcore stack have te same amont of servings as the toco 8 in the trs?
i ask this because i saw the chart of the hardcore stack and it says to run it the hole 10 weeks the toco 8 has 60 servings so will i need to buy one more bottle of toco 8?
i have 2 1-t and the trs
thanks

so how should i run sustain on cycle days?

Eric:

I recently completed a 5 week cycle of AnabolicXtreme 3-AD, MassFX and Superdrol. For the last week I have been using PP's Sustain Alpha, Endoamp and Toco8 recovery stack. I know that I am supposed to be "off cycle" for an amount of time equal to or greater than the amount of time I was on. My question is: Does the time I'm using the PP recovery stack count as "time off" or do I need to wait 5 weeks after I've finished the recovery stack.

BTW, I intend to use 1T for the next cycle which I already have on hand.

Thanks a ton.

BTW, with the use of PP's products, since February I have shed 46 lbs while packing on a ton of lean muscle mass. I'm very pleased with what PP's products have allowed this "older" body builder to accomplish.

Yes, its the same amount with both stacks... but since we recently increased the concentration on the Toco-8 it lasts 60 days now... so we say run it during the cycle too.

-Eric

Yes, the recovery stack time is considered "off time".

Since your last cycle was 5 weeks you should take 5 week off until you run another.

-Eric

i'm doing 6 weeks of 1-t

pct consists of sustain, toco-8, and endoamp.
because the cycle is 6 weeks and pct is 4, when should is start the 8 weeks (60 servings) of toco 8? 1st or 3rd week of cycle? or break it up?

I'm coming off a very successful cut and am looking into a bulk phase now. I'll be using the following products on top of the usual vitamins and whey protein:

Universal Shock Therapy
Universal Storm
Primordial Performance 1-T

After the 1-T cycle is complete (probably about 3 - 4 weeks) I plan on using PowerLab Post-Cycle for PCT.

I just had a couple questions about all of this. First, will Post-Cycle alone be good enough for a PCT after using the 1-T? Also, does the stack seem safe and will it be okay to continue using the Shock Therapy and Storm during PCT? I only plan on one cycle of 1-T for now.

Any thoughts, comments, or deas? Thanks in advance!

Do you work at GNC?

I wouldn't bother taking NO supplement during your 1-T use, save it for later.


That post cycle supplement is just a test booster it looks like. Ok to include, but I wouldn't really call that a complete "PCT".


(sorry about that thumbs down icon, I didn't mean to do that and I can't change it)

I've been using the Revita Shampoo for over 3 weeks now and my shedding seemed to decrease after my 1st week. Thanks