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# 1 Old 12-05-2008

Could sustain alpha be used on a 10 week 400mg/week testosterone cypionate cycle as an hcg replacement? Would you even need hcg or sustain on this cycle since it is a pretty simple, basic cycle? Thanks
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Could sustain alpha be used on a 10 week 400mg/week testosterone cypionate cycle as an hcg replacement? Would you even need hcg or sustain on this cycle since it is a pretty simple, basic cycle? Thanks
Yes, this is the idea… however we are still testing this to be 100% confident.

And yes, you would need hCG for any 10 week cycle, even if it’s just testosterone. If you want to experiment with the Sustain Alpha we suggest 2 days on, 5 days off throughout the cycle. [6 pumps during on days]

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# 3 Old 12-06-2008

would you run the sustain through pct as well then, along with nolva ?
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# 4 Old 12-06-2008

also, Eric, why is hcg necessary for that cycle? i mean, I know it helps you recover much faster, but is it REALLY needed? one should recover fine from nolva, a test booster, and an AI shouldnt they?
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would you run the sustain through pct as well then, along with nolva ?
Yes, you would use the Sustain 5 days on, 2 days off for PCT.

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also, Eric, why is hcg necessary for that cycle? i mean, I know it helps you recover much faster, but is it REALLY needed? one should recover fine from nolva, a test booster, and an AI shouldnt they?
Id say its a very good idea to use hCG for a 10 week cycle... which is really like a 13 week cycle if you consider clearance time of the TE

Check out this article for more info on on-cycle hCG use. -

Proper use of hCG with Anabolic Androgenic Steroids - AAS

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# 7 Old 12-07-2008

For those that are wondering -- you can use Sustain Alpha 2 days on, 5 days off during the cycle, then switch to 5 days on, 2 days OFF for PCT.

So far results have been very positive with the on-cycle protocol. However we are still gathering blood tests from users to be 100% confident it’s preventing suppression.

The idea is that using Sustain during a cycle will help keep LH & FSH pumping enough to keep the testes active – thus allowing for faster recovery of natural testosterone after the cycle. [similar to why hCG is used during the cycle]

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# 8 Old 12-07-2008

where can we go to get updated on how your tests are coming as far as using the sustain as hcg? that would be much easier....
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For those that are wondering -- you can use Sustain Alpha 2 days on, 5 days off during the cycle, then switch to 5 days on, 2 days OFF for PCT.

So far results have been very positive with the on-cycle protocol. However we are still gathering blood tests from users to be 100% confident it’s preventing suppression.

The idea is that using Sustain during a cycle will help keep LH & FSH pumping enough to keep the testes active – thus allowing for faster recovery of natural testosterone after the cycle. [similar to why hCG is used during the cycle]

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That is damn exciting Eric. Ummm, I trust you submitted a provisional patent app?
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# 10 Old 12-08-2008

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where can we go to get updated on how your tests are coming as far as using the sustain as hcg? that would be much easier....
We will update you guys when we have our collections together…

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We will update you guys when we have our collections together…

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Good deal, eric. I look forward to seeing the end results.
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# 12 Old 12-08-2008

when youre on a cycle of test, since the body doesn't completely shut down natural production of test until around week 5 or 6, can the sustain be delayed until that time?
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when youre on a cycle of test, since the body doesn't completely shut down natural production of test until around week 5 or 6, can the sustain be delayed until that time?
It depends on how much test you are using... LH & FSH should be shut down before then though.

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# 14 Old 02-14-2009

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For those that are wondering -- you can use Sustain Alpha 2 days on, 5 days off during the cycle, then switch to 5 days on, 2 days OFF for PCT.

So far results have been very positive with the on-cycle protocol. However we are still gathering blood tests from users to be 100% confident it’s preventing suppression.

The idea is that using Sustain during a cycle will help keep LH & FSH pumping enough to keep the testes active – thus allowing for faster recovery of natural testosterone after the cycle. [similar to why hCG is used during the cycle]

-Eric
if using this protocol on a 1-t cycle, would I use the sustain AND 1-T on the 2 ON days. or would it g 5 days 1-t, 2 days sustain?
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if using this protocol on a 1-t cycle, would I use the sustain AND 1-T on the 2 ON days. or would it g 5 days 1-t, 2 days sustain?
On the two on days you would be using both products. Apply the Sustain to the thighs
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# 16 Old 02-24-2009

What are the best 2 days to apply Sustain while on cycle, if any?
(Beginning, middle, or end of the week)
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What are the best 2 days to apply Sustain while on cycle, if any?
(Beginning, middle, end of 5 day 1-T application)
You do know that the 1-T is apllied everyday, right?
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# 18 Old 02-24-2009

ha, got it confused with the 5 on, 2 off sustain during pct
fixed it, though now it sounds like a stupid question
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# 19 Old 02-24-2009

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ha, got it confused with the 5 on, 2 off sustain during pct
fixed it, though now it sounds like a stupid question
lol No worries. That's what I figured. I was just making sure.
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# 20 Old 02-28-2009

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For those that are wondering -- you can use Sustain Alpha 2 days on, 5 days off during the cycle, then switch to 5 days on, 2 days OFF for PCT.
I am contemplating a pulse cycle of SD in conjunction with the Ultimate Diet 2.0 by Lyle McDonald. In short, I would take SD during the carbohydrate replenishment (1-1.5 days). The dosages would be 40mg over the span of carbohydrate replenishment.

How would you recommend Sustain Alpha be applied during such a protocol? Thanks so much!
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