What I'm doing now is applying 4 pumps of Androgel every AM, and 2 pumps of Androgel an hour or so before working out. When the latter kicks in with the PWO supps, I definitely switch into overdrive. LOL.


Yeah, I was going to recommend upping your IM dose to 100 U 2x/week, which should increase your total-T level to around the 700-800 range.


Oh, that must have been choice. I would have suggested "Lard Ass," which is one of my personal favorites.

YouTube - Stand by Me Campfire Story

Hopefully the C-word didn't slip out.

Now be honest: did you feel better after your outburst, or guilty? I know the way I would have felt.


Welcome to my world. Morons at work, morons on the road, morons at the gym. To paraphrase Samuel Taylor Coleridge: "Morons morons everywhere, and not one who can think."

- Dan

You are only taking 120mg of test every week?
I would have thought the Doc would have you on at least 200-250/wk injection.

You would probably benefit if you switched to a gel of 10% T concentration.
A 10% gel is 100mg of T per day, and say you only absorbed half of the gel this would be 50mg of T per day, that would work out to 350mg of T in your system per week.

I feel I must warn you, if you are having increased aggression now bumping your T levels higher might not be a good ideal for your marriage.

I hear ya. I end up mentioning it probably more than I care to on the forum just so certain posts or points make sense in some instances. The fact that I cycle but cannot do resistance training (and yet still get good results) absolutely boggles some people's minds b/c they think it isn't possible (for example).

I admire your philosophy. As I said in another post/thread, people run cycles for different reason/motivations/results. So, responsible cycling of anabolics extends well beyond the stereotypical, overtly healthy, 30 year old meatwad (no offense to such well built individuals is intended) and the new stereotype of the 18 year old who wants to run Superdrol for his first cycle and who hasn't long figured out what his D1ck is used for if he has even used it yet! I think that you and Keith have some similar motives and represent a new segment of anabolic users (responsible ones too and more conservative than most young 'uns), and I represent a completely different set of motives and reasons for cycling. It is really interesting to see these new "demographics" and converse online about these things.

I like the part in bold. It reminds me of a trip to the doctor last week for my cold. I couldn't see my PCP (the cool, pragmatic, level-headed one), so I had to see a different doctor (they always suck by comparison IME). I try to be honest nowadays with doctors; I mean, it is easy to lie through my teeth, but doctors shouldn't encourage dishonesty by their reactive behavior (this is going somewhere, I promise). Anyways, at the time of my visit I was trying a week or so of a certain high-dose anabolic (40mg/day-name omitted-not superdrol BTW) and it was putting a hurting on my BP (159/99 BP and 108 pulse at my OV) which I had been monitoring at home. I've since reduced the dose to 30mg/day and things are much better. Anyway, I tell the nurse I am taking an anabolic steroid b/c she is like "are you SURE that you didn't take any cold medicine?" (I am thinking, "yes, biatch, how many times do I have to say it", lol). And she is like "O-KKKKK" and then she leaves. The doctor comes in and checks out my cold and the anabolic steroid/supplement comes up and he proceeds to give me some pathetic, very ill-informed sermon that can be summed up by "roids are bad, mmmkkkk".

Now, I don't intend to kill myself via cycling (far from it), and I go heavy on the support supps and blood work and BP monitoring and all that stuff (and research and reading galore). But, my choice to use anabolic substances has nothing whatever to do with me coming to the doctor for a cold (which was viral and required no treatment anyway), SO SAVE THE SERMON. I am a grown man; I make decisions and bear the consequences of them without any input needed from Dr. Know-Nothing-About-Roids (the good or the bad). I mean, do doctors have to minor in how to be a half-@$$ed preacher nowadays to get an M.D.? My PCP is NOTHING like this thankfully. And actually, most of my previous doctors have either been ok with it or have said it is a personal decision and they are glad that I am having a physician monitor my bloodwork, etc.

He concluded his sermon with "well, they are illegal, and you don't have a prescription, so..." In the midst of all this doctor's caring about my health, he didn't even offer to check my basic blood chemistry or anything like that (my PCP DID last year when I told him). So this doctor clearly had my health in mind. I'll get blood work done in or right after PCT anyway, but the point remains.

Sorry for the rant.

Oh, the C-word will earn you more "points" (more like a deficit) than you want, for sure! And a dozen fresh donuts from Krispy Kreme will not make everything instantly better.

I am guessing that Dan would have felt pleasure or guilty pleasure, lol.

Welcome to THE world, you mean.

EDIT: jra, his aggression is probably coming from the tren+turinabol combo. More test while on cycle won't help, but think he will be fine after the cycle. Tren is a mean mofo-I was like metaphorical napalm to people in my periphery when I cycled it!

Actually, I felt a lot better getting it off my chest.
The whole episode definitely cowed her.
She was silent throughout my outburst, and was trying to be nice to me when I came home from work.

So, no regrets on my part.

I think part of the latter is that she flew off to Michigan this morning, and often worries that I might try to sow my oats elsewhere while she is away.

Oh, I bet if enough refined sugar and saturated fat is provided, all will be right with the world.


I would have enjoyed it immensely. Of course, I probably would have also surgically stapled her mouth shut years ago. Let's see her suck down those Krispy Kremes through a straw.

- Dan

Interesting choice of words.
LOL.


LOL, that's what I figured. Well, what had to be done had to be done.


Well, if you're going to pick up a chick, I would suggest a bar, not a barn. ROFL!

So when does the junk food purge begin?

- Dan

I think you're right that Keith and I represent a small but growing demographic in performance enhancement, and this is being fueled in part by the increased awareness of low-T and the availability of TRT. Still, most of the information out there doesn't cater to guys in our age group, certainly not in terms of resistance training and cardio as a transformative process.

- Dan

Today's Workout: Day 30 - 3/17/2010:

I decided I wanted to do a 10K run on the elliptical today and also do some upper body work, so I mixed things up a bit.

Cardio: Octane Running Elliptical: 10K run on level 6 in 43:58.


Barbell Bench Presses: 115, 125, 135, 145, 145


Dumbbells on stability ball, each set performed until exhaustion:

• Chest flies on stability ball: 30, 35, 40, 40, 45
• Chest press on stability ball: 50, 55, 60, 60, 60
• Dumbbell Triceps Extension: 40, 45, 50, 50, 50

Superset: 15 x 4

• Biceps Curl: 60, 60, 70, 70
• Rope Pulldown: 60, 60, 70, 80
• Cable Cross: 50, 60, 60, 70
• Lat Pulldown: 90, 100, 100, 110

Stability Ball:

• Crunches: [supine 25, right side 25, left side 25] x 5
• Squats with 35 lb weight in each hand: 20 x 5
• Plank holds: 60 seconds x 5
• Balance Pushups: 20 x 5
• Bridge Hamstring Curl: 20 x 5
• Knee Tuck: 20 x 5
• Push Ups (using inverted stability dome): 20 x 5

I really pushed myself on the Barbell Bench Presses and was very surprised that I could work myself up to do two sets of 145 # (15 reps followed by 12 reps). It was pretty damn painful, but I managed to do it.

- Dan

Day 30 workout 3/17/10

Exercises (Chest, Triceps, Shoulders)

Bench Press Warmup 1 set of 32 with 260# (bowflex)
Overhead cable extension Warmup 1 set of 24 with 100# (bowflex)
Incline DB Press (45') 3 sets using 60’ DBs 28, 25, 23 (+1 rep)
DB Bench Press 3 sets using 60’ DBs 27, 25, 25 (+2 reps)
Bench Press 2 sets using 410# (bowflex) (32, 32)
Decline Press 2 sets using 410# (bowflex) (33, 33) (+1 rep/set)
Incline Press 2 sets of 33 using 410# (bowflex)
Chest Fly 4 sets with 320# (bowflex) 22, 20, 19, 17 (+5 reps)
Triceps Extension (French Press) 3 sets with 350# (bowflex) 26, 24, 24
Hammer Triceps Extension 1 set of 25 with 350# (bowflex) (+1 rep)
Rope pushdown 190# (bowflex) (22, 22) (+2 reps)
Lying Tricep Ext. (skullcrusher) 2 sets of (22, 21) with 55# and ez curl (+1 rep)
Bench Dip 1 set of 35 using body weight (+1 rep)
Dumbbell shoulder press 3 sets with 50# DBs 20, 16, 15
Arnold Press 3 sets with 45# DBs 16, 15, 15
Front Shoulder Raise 2 sets using 120# (bowflex) 24, 24 (+2 reps)
Lateral Shoulder Raise 2 sets using 120# (bowflex) 22, 22
Shoulder Extension 2 sets of 27 using 160# (bowflex) (+1 rep/set)
Shoulder Shrug 3 sets of 33 using 410# (bowflex) (+1 rep/set)
DB Lying Rear Lateral Raise 1 set of 22 using 35# DBs (+1 rep)
Seated Bent Over Lat Raise 1 set of 22 using 35# DBs
Triceps Pushdown (Lat Bar) (Superset with Hammer Curl) 2 sets of 21 with 220# (+10#)
Hammer Curl (Superset with Triceps Pushdown) sets of 21 and 21 using 40# Dumbbells

Kick ass get that time down brutha! Try dropping it by a minute at least! Chu got it maan.....Chu can do it!
Uhhhmmm...yeah I am not looking forward to some of this nasty stuff I am going to be ingesting here in the near future! But like Jack lelane says "if man made it, don't eat it", and "if it tastes good, spit it out." Lol! That old fucker is still kickin like chicken....an inspiration for us all and of course my fave of all time Frank Zane! Too me he was one of the greatest of all time and still is. I think he is in much better shape than the governator! alright motivational speech here:
You get your ass on that machine and you take no got damn prisoners...U understand me! You work that mutha till it gets tired! You are a machine and you will defeat that silly little elliptical POS! You got that! This will be mission success! Defeat nor retreat is NOT an option! Your only decision will be to whoop this things ass and by god you will beat your PB! You got all this packed in your cranium? Now go GET SOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LMAO
l8rs Bro!

Damn Dude, you gave me a flashback of a Drill Sergeant chewing my ass out and telling me he will motivate me.
Now all DocDan needs to reply is sir yes sir.

me too, but of military school.... SIR YES SIR

Here you go:

From Old Bridge woman seeking 1,000 pounds gets offers for reality show, book deal | - NJ.com :

Sounds like a dream date...



- Dan

Jabba's fling when Princess Leia (sp?) is away?

Where is the poor guy that got drunk enough to get her pregnant.

I want to know exactly how he got her pregnant... then again, maybe I don't.

- Dan

Search and you shall find: YouTube - The Tyra Banks Show : tyra in Two - Fat Families

- Dan

His corpse (he suffocated) is probably completely encapsulated between a pair of her adjacent flab rolls, along with the TV remote, a pound of butter, an uneaten family size bag of Lay's potato chips (more like potato dust now), and some misplaced jolly ranchers from last Halloween.

LOL, I remember watching an ER show where this monster of a woman came in complaining of chest pains and it took them more time than you would think to peel back a fat roll near her chest and expose a TV remote that was jabbing her in the chest/ribs and giving false symptoms of heart problems (which I am sure she had or was developing anyway, being so lardy and all). Well when you snuggle with your remote and put 300lbs of weight on it lying on your stomach, it follows...

Lardy...reminds me of that donut shop on the Simpsons called "Lard Lad" (LOL).

And why did that chair in the picture not sheer in half when big bertha "parked" on it? I've seen more than one 300 lb person break a chair just by sitting in it for too long. My friend suggested that the crane that is holding her up in the picture was photoshopped out.
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Man, I know I have been ranting about doctors lately, so what is one more rant? Suffice to say that I was/am still suffering from a pretty vicious cough, mostly due to sinus drainage. I've puked from coughing so hard, and my abs and ribs hurt. Anyway, I wasn't even coughing last week at the doctor so no need for cough meds. But since then, I've had to take what was left of a bottle of codeine pills from the last time I had a sinus virus (December). I was running low (only had about 20 pills last week) and concerned about not having anything for my cough if I still have it next week as I have some training next Tuesday and I will have to leave if I can't stop coughing.

So I called today; they wanted me to come back in; I am out of sick leave, so I had to work late as hell today to make up for it. I got to see another resident b/c my PCP is at a conference. Aside from the "do you know how dangerous steroids are?" sermon that I've come to expect, she ended up saying I don't feel comfortable prescribing a narcotic for a cough. I played Q and A with her. She said it wasn't b/c of the steroid thing; she said that she does not believe in the use of narcotics including [C-V] codeine cough syrup (cough cough) for a cough unless someone is coughing up blood (I @hit you not-she said that). I said what about if someone is coughing so hard that they are vomiting (me)? Vomiting isn't life threatening, so no I woundn't prescribe codeine for it. I said coughing up blood usually indicates something more severe than a cough, such as heart disease. She said, not necessarily. It could be lung cancer or tuberculosis (WTF!?). I said, I sure hope that you would prescribe something a hell of a lot stronger than codeine for someone with lung cancer!

Now, I don't really care that I didn't get the 10 additional codeine pills that I might have needed (at most). I do care that I wasted my time for nothing though, and that there is another knucklehead running lose with a license to practice medicine that hasn't a clue as to the proper use of opioids. I have an excellent track record there BTW as it is the same place that I did chronic opioid therapy for months before I stopped voluntarily, so she said fear of drug abuse was not an issue. It was just her "policy". There are a lot of residents who are training under my PCP who practices there (they should have to wear "RESIDENT" name tags to avoid confusion, lol), but unlike this person, he actually knows what he is doing and also doesn't give sermons. He suggests blood work IF I don't mind (a nice guy!) and writes the order. A smart man indeed. Where are the rest of them?

I'll just see my PCP only in the future (even if I have to wait a few days) and spare myself steroids-r-bad sermons from people who don't even know the first thing about me or my medical history (or steroids) but want me to give them an extemporaneous thesis rationalizing my use of steroids in less than 3 minutes when doing so will not change their preconceived notions anyway. "Your BP is high" "Well, STFU with the 20 questions BS and steroids are extremely dangerous chatter and what are you doing to yourself and why are you doing it and maybe my systolic will drop a few points or at least not climb any higher, bizzle!"
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Sorry Keith and Dan; no more thread jacks to hate on doctors, scout's honor.

Today's Workout: Day 31 - 3/18/2010:

For kicks, I decided to repeat yesterday's resistance training workout, and I really pushed myself. I started with interval training on the Octane rather than the 10K run.

Cardio: Octane Running Elliptical: 1/5/10 interval training x 30 minutes

Barbell Bench Presses: 135, 135, 145, 155, 165

Then, I did five additional sets, decreasing the weight by 10# per set.


Dumbbells on stability ball, each set performed until exhaustion:

• Chest flies on stability ball: 30, 35, 40, 45, 50
• Chest press on stability ball: 50, 55, 60, 60, 60
• Dumbbell Triceps Extension: 40, 45, 50, 50, 50

Superset: 15 x 4

• Biceps Curl: 60, 60, 70, 70
• Rope Pulldown: 60, 60, 70, 80
• Cable Cross: 50, 60, 60, 70
• Lat Pulldown: 90, 100, 100, 110

Stability Ball:

• Crunches: [supine 25, right side 25, left side 25] x 5
• Squats with 35 lb weight in each hand: 20 x 5
• Plank holds: 60 seconds x 5
• Balance Pushups: 20 x 5
• Bridge Hamstring Curl: 20 x 5
• Knee Tuck: 20 x 5
• Push Ups (using inverted stability dome): 20 x 5

I was really surprised that I could advance the weight so quickly on the barbell bench presses. I can definitely tell that my muscles are really getting stretched out, as they're not as tight as they used to be.

- Dan